Vietnam Veterans of America: Liz Trotta 'owes the men and women of our military and veterans an apology, and FOX should demand it of her'

It's not everyday that I agree with anything on newsvine, but, I agree with this.

What Trotta said was foul, and I think the only reason she said it is because she is butt ugly, and no matter how hard she tries, she'll never get a man to have sex with her.

Trotta is an old toad, trying to relevant in the Fox subculture of preaching hate and division. A classic neo-con, war loving old bat. And, yes Fox should make her apologize, but it will never happen, they can't admit mistakes, nor correct their own, they just move on to the next divisive talking point.

Fox is 0 for 2 the past week when this stupid statement is combined with the equally idiotic "crack pipe" statement directed at Rep. Maxine Waters.

One of my great regrets about my Operation Iraqi Freedom service is that there was a sexual assault during our overnight shift. Thankfully the punk that committed this despicable act was caught, ( I also regret not being involved in his capture ), and I of course would have far preferred that he never got the chance to commit his crime (which she did make easier by ignoring night time safety procedures, which of course doesn't excuse this loser of a "soldier" in the least) !!

Sexual assault should not, is not, and will not be tolerated by the U.S. Military, which is exactly how it should be. Any statement that implies anything but the strongest desire of military leaders and the overwhelming majority of all Service Members to prevent ALL military sexual assaults is a wrong answer. Just as the Rep. Waters statement was so over the top it should have resulted in the immediate suspension or termination of the personality responsible, this statement demands action from Fox execs, which I would wait for, but I need my sleep !!

I honestly believe that these kinds of statements are calculated and deliberate, designed to inflame. I don't know sometimes if I should ignore it, or hunt the bastards down and drop kick their asses.

I know ignoring this trash is the proper thing to do, but the latter sure would make me feel better.

'Nam-66-68: Anyone sane who has ever been involved in a war discourages it forevermore. Not that I'm a lefty but I never watch Fox (not even network or sports) as it sets my 'bull@!$%#' alarm ringing so loudly. Anyway all their programming is directed at twelve year olds who have all the sophistication of a catbox. It scares the pants off me to even be aware of the quantity of people in this country who actually vote after being influenced by authorities who spew contraversial statements solely to get ratings and sponsors. I would have little compunction about what to do with any of them given five minutes in a dark alley. Unfortunately you can't beat intellegence into someone but you can pursuade them to 'zip it'!

Sexual assault in the military will continue as long as the senior corps allows it to continue.

Since we now have a volunteer military, when senior officers demand of their junior officers and senior NCOs that this @!$%# stop - it will! The military reacts (at least the Navy I knew) to a demand to get "shipshape".

I am not so naive to believe 100% of sexual assaults will stop, but will be significantly less frequent when it is demanded to become significantly less frequent and more than the simple lip service it is getting currently.

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US Navy, CVA-64, Yankee Station, Vietnam 1966

I been raped I say cut their manhood off that will stop it. A guy rapes once he will do it again. Real men don't rape.

IMHO, Trotta spewed this hate, not out of her believing this or even thinking about what she was saying, but just a/o only for the shock value.

I have come to my own conclusion that this is how the whole of Faux News works. They work to shock and disgust, amuse and insult, to keep their name in the forefront of the media.

I think the whole of Faux, the TParty and their minions should be completely ignored, met with derision, and dismissed with sarcastic humor.

Faux should never be the topic of any intelligent discourse, it would be an oxymoron of the highest order.

Any dialogue with any ideologue only produces monologues.

The Fox modus operandi is to bring on commentators as proxies, who make outrageous, untrue claims on important political issues in order to push their rabid right-wing agenda.

Then, if anyone calls them out on it, Fox just says hey, we didn't say it, that person doesn't work for us. In the meantime, Fox management is high-fiving themselves in the back room.

As just one of manny who served in Vietnam in 68/69. I am sick and tired of any one who denigrates my service there.

US Army Retired

I was assaulted while overseas. I was assigned to a post that had two other women who lived off post. Being the only female I was in a building on the 5th floor alone. After the assault was found out by the other men they tore the rapist up. After they beat his butt they drug him to where the mps were and handed him over. He was a E7 I was a E3. He lost his rank, went to prision in Leavenworth and then got a dishonorable discharge. He had 19 years in when it happened.

That was over 30 years ago.

I don't have words right now to respond to the idiocy and lack of respect the GOP/TP and their supporters have for the Veterans who put their lives on the line, so these idiots can get on TV and tell them how much they hate them.

signed- Spouse of a 100% Combat disabled Vet -1965-1970 USArmy/ Infantry Captain/ Ret. Vietnam 67-69.

Oh, the poison Fox News puts on the plates of their watchers, EVERYDAY, and no one can do anything about it. I thought with Murdock's trials, and well deserved tribulations, that Fox would see the error's of their way of reporting information, wake up, and start being a fair and balanced part of the main stream media. Guess not. "And the beat goes on"

Anyone with any common sense knows that Fox News has no morals, so the people they have on as commentators and guest "experts" have no morals either.

This woman was no worse than anyone Fox puts on, they are all morally bankrupt.

It's no wonder that England is hounding Fox News for illegal reporting abd bribeary. We in in the U.S. should hold them accountable.

All Fox News has done is to divide America with skewed views and deception.They are the true destroyers of the middle class.They have their army it's called The Tea Party,poor,uneducated and Fox is their sounding board and savior.Fox News the life support for the republican party of no.

Con Tien, DMZ65/ 66 Camp Carrol 68/69 4th Marines TAD to The Walkin' Dead

What makes me mad as hell is that it is the republicans who wave the flag and are all to willing today to send our service members off to war. Then tell us how much they love us as long as they do not have to serve there country.

The Obama administration like them or not have done more to support our troops than was ever done in the last administration.

They have outraged the military, they have outraged women in general and wanting to start taking away our rights, they have insulted people of color. It seems they have not a clue how that will go against them at the voting booth.

Fox should of fired her a!! but I knew they would not.What scares me is these people vote and have no clue. You can not fix ignorant.

BTW Thanks to all of you who served their country.

Incensed !!!!

It seems to be that everyone is so concerned about this idiot's comments. How about the facts in this matter? A 64% increase in violent sexual assaults?! That is absolutely outrageous and the military should be ashamed for letting it get to this point. The big problem with recruiting a military force to fight 2 wars is that you tend to accept people into the service who otherwise would be of questionable character. This falls squarely on the shoulders of the junior officers and NCOs for allowing this type of thing to happen. I've seen it myself. Everyone is so worried about their own careers and looking up at that next promotion, that they forget to look to the troops under their command and the welfare of their unit.

I served as a company commander. Although I had previously served as an infantry officer on active duty, with the reduction in force in the 1990s, I found myself assigned to a Reserve MP unit. One of the first things I did was conduct a command climate survey. This is completed by all members of the unit to help me in getting an idea of where they were as far as training, discipline, leadership, etc. Although everything seemed fine on the surface, as I made my rounds, checking with my different platoons and their work spaces, I soon found out that everything was not as fine as it appeared. This was my first experience with female soldiers under my command, since they do not serve in the infantry. This military police company was made up of approximately 30% female soldiers. What I found, as I began reading the surveys was disturbing. Many of the females (identified only by gender - this is an annonymous survey) were reporting that they had either experienced inappropriate sexual comments or advances and that there was sexually explicit material that they had seen.

With that information in hand, I conducted a thorough search of all work areas, lockers and offices and discovered that one of the platoons had a huge collection of pornographic videos, magazines and posters stashed away. I immediately put an end to it, and reported it to my battalion commander, who unfortunately was too worried about his own career to take any steps himself, explaining that it was my problems, that I needed to take care of it and he didn't want to hear anything more on the subject. I handled it and life moved on.

On the flip side of that situation, was another unsettling incident. About a year after I had taken command, we received a warning order that we may be deployed to Kosovo. I issued the information to the company. Within two months, I had a dozen of my female troops reporting to me that they were pregnant and therefore non-deployable. I found this a little disturbing since only two of them were married and only another 2 or 3 were in any kind of long term relationship. The end result was the most telling. Once we received word to stand down and that we would not be deploying, only 4 of the 12 women who had become pregnant carried the pregnancy through. The others all opted for abortions. It was disturbing to think that people would do something like that to avoide deployment. I know someone will accuse me of being insensitive to women's rights or something. I really didn't care what they did in their personal lives. I just found it disturbing the lengths they would go to so as not to be deployed. It just speaks to the fact that things cut both ways sometimes, and that its not always the men who step out of line.

As far as this Fox contributor....she's an idiot. Period.

...warning order that we may be deployed to Kosovo. I issued the information to the company. Within two months, I had a dozen of my female troops reporting to me that they were pregnant and therefore non-deployableOnce we received word to stand down and that we would not be deploying, only 4 of the 12 women who had become pregnant carried the pregnancy through.

I had a similar incident thoough I was only an E-4 at the time. During the early stages of Desert Storm ('90 timeframe) we received word we might deploy. 5 women (including me) and 12 men. 4 women became pregnant; none were married (no I wasn't one of the four). They did all go through with the pregnancies, two sent their babies for adoption, two others later married.

I have to say I prefer, most of the time, to work with men even with their oftentimes, uhm, "colorful" language and references. Some of the women I have had to work with, for, and over are and were migraines in the making with their whining and complaining when they are sent to do something. It makes those of us who aren't afraid to carry, or help carry, the load look bad and it ticks me off as much as it does any males in the vicinity.

I am one to usually defend Fox at times as they do report on some issues which other outlets completely ignore but this time I am ready to pull the plug if they don't get Trotta to make some sort of retraction. Granted, the normal language "[We} don't necesarily share the views of our contributors/commentators" may be the response but one can only hope Trotta got or will be getting an earful to watch what she says. But again, she is a contributor and they can't restrict her speech. What they CAN do is not use her as a contributor anymore but I doubt that will happen. After all, I thought they had sunk extra low when they brought Palin onboard.

What ever happened to the 5-7 second delay in a telecast and the mute button ? How does Fox network even allow that comment on the air ?

....you can always count on this site to twist and print quotes out of context to create a story. Somebody playing politics it looks like...